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		<title>By: Robert M. Stockmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert M. Stockmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NATO in severe trouble

NATO seems to be in severe trouble, internally. A weird background 
image was sent on 07-FEB-2008 on NOVA TV (NED2) where Dutch Defence 
Minister Middelkoop was reporting from Vilnius, Lithuania, near the 
Soviet border, some 60 miles from Minsk. The background board showed 
the following text :

           07-08 II 2008
    NATO   Defence Ministers
  ---+---  Ministres de la Defence
    OTAN   VILNIUS

Very strange. If NATO is spelled backwards on the same board, it
means the highest NATO chiefs are internally in conflict.
Does this read like : &quot;The Devil is in Disarray&quot; ? The highest
NATO chiefs are in need of mental health care? Also, why is the
date of the event spelled as :

   07-08 II 2008

instead of 07-02-2008 or 07-FEB-2008, or Feb 7, 2008 ?  Something is 
very very foul here. Could Afghanistan slowly have become the Waterloo 
for NATO? Check www.novatv.nl in a couple of hours or maybe tomorrow, 
and you can replay the Interview with Dutch Defence Minister Middelkoop 
to see that weird background image yourself.
http://www.novatv.nl/index.cfm?ln=nl&amp;fuseaction=videoaudio.details&amp;reportage_id=
5789
http://crashrecovery.org/nato.jpg


  &quot;Netherlands guilty of war violations in Afghanistan&quot; 
   http://www.niburu.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=13074
   29/01/08

   The Netherlands are guilty of serious war violations in 
   Afghanistan. This claim was made by two lawyers who yesterday filed 
   a complaint against the Dutch government and the Chiefs of Staff 
   of the Dutch Armed Forces, as was reported by Dutch Newspaper Trouw. 
   The Dutch troops failed to adequately take into account the 
   presence of civilians. 
 
   Heavy infantry 
   According to lawyers Nico Steijnen and Meindert Stelling, who are 
   activists for the association of Lawyers for Peace, charges include a 
   battle in the district of Chora where between fifty and seventy 
   civilian casualties were made. Most of them, according independent 
   investigation, were slain by Dutch gun fire. The NATO commander in 
   the province of Uruzgan typified the use of heavy infantry by the 
   Dutch, as a violation of war. His superiors were, according &#039;Trouw&#039;,
   of a different opinion.
 
   Civilian Casualties 
   The Public Ministry has been conducting research into the June battle 
   in Chora, but, according the peace advocates, already in 2003 civilian 
   casualties were made by the Dutch in Afghanistan. The lawyers report in 
   the newspaper that NATO has given itself a carte blanche to execute the 
   leaders of the Taliban &#039;outside the law&#039;.
 
   NATO Secretary-General 
   The declaration covers amongst others the Dutch Commander of the Armed 
   Forces Dick Berlijn, the Secretary-General of NATO Jaap de Hoop 
   Scheffer and the highest officials of the Ministries of Foreign Affairs 
   and Defense. By Wednesday, according &#039;Trouw&#039;, it will be known whether 
   the Public Prosecution Service will consider the pending complaints. 
   The lawyers, who previously tried to get the Netherlands prosecuted for 
   air strikes in former Yugoslavia, have already stated to proceed to the 
   court of Justice if the PPS dismisses the complaint. (Novum / kA)&quot;

Interesting enough the NOVA broadcast of February 7, 2008, mentions
nothing about the above filed lawsuit. Instead the Chiefs of NATO
conducted a special meeting near the Soviet border and flash
a symbolic message across the Dutch TV air-waves ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NATO in severe trouble</p>
<p>NATO seems to be in severe trouble, internally. A weird background<br />
image was sent on 07-FEB-2008 on NOVA TV (NED2) where Dutch Defence<br />
Minister Middelkoop was reporting from Vilnius, Lithuania, near the<br />
Soviet border, some 60 miles from Minsk. The background board showed<br />
the following text :</p>
<p>           07-08 II 2008<br />
    NATO   Defence Ministers<br />
  &#8212;+&#8212;  Ministres de la Defence<br />
    OTAN   VILNIUS</p>
<p>Very strange. If NATO is spelled backwards on the same board, it<br />
means the highest NATO chiefs are internally in conflict.<br />
Does this read like : &#8220;The Devil is in Disarray&#8221; ? The highest<br />
NATO chiefs are in need of mental health care? Also, why is the<br />
date of the event spelled as :</p>
<p>   07-08 II 2008</p>
<p>instead of 07-02-2008 or 07-FEB-2008, or Feb 7, 2008 ?  Something is<br />
very very foul here. Could Afghanistan slowly have become the Waterloo<br />
for NATO? Check <a href="http://www.novatv.nl" rel="nofollow">http://www.novatv.nl</a> in a couple of hours or maybe tomorrow,<br />
and you can replay the Interview with Dutch Defence Minister Middelkoop<br />
to see that weird background image yourself.<br />
<a href="http://www.novatv.nl/index.cfm?ln=nl&#038;fuseaction=videoaudio.details&#038;reportage_id" rel="nofollow">http://www.novatv.nl/index.cfm?ln=nl&#038;fuseaction=videoaudio.details&#038;reportage_id</a>=<br />
5789<br />
<a href="http://crashrecovery.org/nato.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://crashrecovery.org/nato.jpg</a></p>
<p>  &#8220;Netherlands guilty of war violations in Afghanistan&#8221;<br />
   <a href="http://www.niburu.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&#038;t=13074" rel="nofollow">http://www.niburu.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&#038;t=13074</a><br />
   29/01/08</p>
<p>   The Netherlands are guilty of serious war violations in<br />
   Afghanistan. This claim was made by two lawyers who yesterday filed<br />
   a complaint against the Dutch government and the Chiefs of Staff<br />
   of the Dutch Armed Forces, as was reported by Dutch Newspaper Trouw.<br />
   The Dutch troops failed to adequately take into account the<br />
   presence of civilians. </p>
<p>   Heavy infantry<br />
   According to lawyers Nico Steijnen and Meindert Stelling, who are<br />
   activists for the association of Lawyers for Peace, charges include a<br />
   battle in the district of Chora where between fifty and seventy<br />
   civilian casualties were made. Most of them, according independent<br />
   investigation, were slain by Dutch gun fire. The NATO commander in<br />
   the province of Uruzgan typified the use of heavy infantry by the<br />
   Dutch, as a violation of war. His superiors were, according &#8216;Trouw&#8217;,<br />
   of a different opinion.</p>
<p>   Civilian Casualties<br />
   The Public Ministry has been conducting research into the June battle<br />
   in Chora, but, according the peace advocates, already in 2003 civilian<br />
   casualties were made by the Dutch in Afghanistan. The lawyers report in<br />
   the newspaper that NATO has given itself a carte blanche to execute the<br />
   leaders of the Taliban &#8216;outside the law&#8217;.</p>
<p>   NATO Secretary-General<br />
   The declaration covers amongst others the Dutch Commander of the Armed<br />
   Forces Dick Berlijn, the Secretary-General of NATO Jaap de Hoop<br />
   Scheffer and the highest officials of the Ministries of Foreign Affairs<br />
   and Defense. By Wednesday, according &#8216;Trouw&#8217;, it will be known whether<br />
   the Public Prosecution Service will consider the pending complaints.<br />
   The lawyers, who previously tried to get the Netherlands prosecuted for<br />
   air strikes in former Yugoslavia, have already stated to proceed to the<br />
   court of Justice if the PPS dismisses the complaint. (Novum / kA)&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting enough the NOVA broadcast of February 7, 2008, mentions<br />
nothing about the above filed lawsuit. Instead the Chiefs of NATO<br />
conducted a special meeting near the Soviet border and flash<br />
a symbolic message across the Dutch TV air-waves <img src='http://theimpudentobserver.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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