Comments on: Bush Arrives In Israel To Hot And Cold Welcomes http://theimpudentobserver.com/world-news/bush-arrives-in-israel-to-hot-and-cold-welcomes/ Global Liberal Issues Thu, 10 May 2012 20:18:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Fred Stopsky http://theimpudentobserver.com/world-news/bush-arrives-in-israel-to-hot-and-cold-welcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-791 Fred Stopsky Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:36:42 +0000 http://theimpudentobserver.com/world-news/bush-arrives-in-israel-to-hot-and-cold-welcomes/#comment-791 If you study the history of Zionism, at no point did any major Jewish leader mention thi concept. In fact, up to the 1940s, most Jewish leaders in the Palestine Mandate forsaw a time when Arabs and Jews would live in the same nation. I stand by my criticism, Bush's comment flies in the face of Zionist history. Please read some. If you study the history of Zionism, at no point did any major Jewish leader mention thi concept. In fact, up to the 1940s, most Jewish leaders in the Palestine Mandate forsaw a time when Arabs and Jews would live in the same nation. I stand by my criticism, Bush’s comment flies in the face of Zionist history. Please read some.

]]> By: Reasonable Rightist http://theimpudentobserver.com/world-news/bush-arrives-in-israel-to-hot-and-cold-welcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-790 Reasonable Rightist Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:59:50 +0000 http://theimpudentobserver.com/world-news/bush-arrives-in-israel-to-hot-and-cold-welcomes/#comment-790 Good post, but you make a criticism at the end based on a misinterpretation of Bush's words. Nation, State, and Country are all different things. You are right, Israel is NOT a jewish nation because not all the population is jewish, and "nation" refers to a gorup of people who identify as such. "State," on the other hand, strictly refers to a government. Thus, whether or not all of Israel's population is Jewish is completely irrelevant; its laws and its government make it a Jewish state; and it WAS founded as such to be a haven from anti-semitism. Bush used the word "State," not "Nation," thus he was right and did not snub at anyone except in the minds of those who are allready preset against him. It is one thing to criticize on policy, but to attack a misinterpretation of a phrase also taken out of context is utter foolishness! Good post, but you make a criticism at the end based on a misinterpretation of Bush’s words.

Nation, State, and Country are all different things. You are right, Israel is NOT a jewish nation because not all the population is jewish, and “nation” refers to a gorup of people who identify as such.
“State,” on the other hand, strictly refers to a government. Thus, whether or not all of Israel’s population is Jewish is completely irrelevant; its laws and its government make it a Jewish state; and it WAS founded as such to be a haven from anti-semitism.
Bush used the word “State,” not “Nation,” thus he was right and did not snub at anyone except in the minds of those who are allready preset against him. It is one thing to criticize on policy, but to attack a misinterpretation of a phrase also taken out of context is utter foolishness!

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