Is Socialist Norway A Shining Example Marx Was Right?

As capitalist economies collapse, as unemployment soars to new levels, there remains the case of Norway which is based on Socialist principles and had endured the crisis without encountering the problems of capitalism. Several economists are now returning to the ideas of Karl Marx in order to re-think his comments concerning the destiny of capitalism. A difficulty in discussing “Socialism” with modern people is their confusion concerning the term. Many associate “Socialism” with the USSR which used that expression or NAZI Germany which used the expression. This is akin to saying: “Christians conducted the Inquisition. Christians committed genocide in the New World, therefore, all Christians are guilty of genocide and believe in the Inquisition.” There are Christians and there are Christians. Make a list of people who refer to themselves as “Christian” and have absolutely nothing in common with one another.

Marx was NOT the initial Socialist. There were “Utopian Socialists” prior to him and he hated Utopian Socialists. Several Utopian Socialists experiments were attempted in America during the 19th century. Among the best selling books in 19th century America was Edward Bellamy’s “Looking Backward” which describes a free Socialist America in 2000 which has eliminated poverty. Marx accurately identified that Capitalists were greedy and exploited people creating the concept of ‘alienation’ of the worker from his/her work. He described the spread of globalization and competition between capitalists in the world–certainly his prediction is accurate. He predicted there would be rising unemployment and urged a society in which the needs of workers would be protected from the evil of exploitation. He misinterpreted the ability of some capitalists to recognize workers needed decent pay in order to purchase products. But, has not the greed of Wall Street exemplified his belief the first priority of capitalists is their own welfare, not that of society or those who do the work of in society?

My comments are simplistic and reduce complexity of economics to a few cliches,(sorry, Marx can not be explained in a sentence or so),but how do critics of Socialism explain that Norway has been using Socialist principles and has created a modern society which provides a high standard of living and the government runs a surplus including a $300 billion fund to invest for the future? In Capitalist America, 45 million people lack medical care, in Capitalistic America there is no free early childhood care, in Capitalist America there are no paid paternity and maternity leaves for couples, in Capitalist America there is no base economic security for those who lose their jobs.

The future will eventually lead to combining the best features of Capitalism with the best features of socialism. In the first decade of the 20th century, the American Socialist Party led by Gene Debs urged addressing the ills of capitalism without calling for its end. It was Gene Debs who opposed the madness of America’s blunder in entering World War I rather than seeking to end the fighting. And, Gene Debs remains the only presidential candidate in American history who was imprisoned for opposing a war.

Perhaps, it is time to study what is beneficial in Norway and apply some of those principles in order to save capitalism from its own greed. Who today can deny that Marx was right about the inherent selfishness and greed of capitalists? I have a hunch those being fired would prefer a dose of socialism that would provide them a decent unemployment package, including access to medical care.

  • Norwegian Victoria

    No. Just no.

  • Norwegian Sigbjoern

    Yes. Just yes. A regulated free market is preferable. A mixed economy is better than an unrestrained one. Though Norway shouldn’t be the perfect example to describe socialism that works. Norway has tremendous amounts of oil income and we save them in, the so-called Sovereign wealth Fund. Rather look to Denmark that mostly are dependent on workforce. They have a mixed economy as well as a big welfare state, and they are doing great :)

  • gee sus

    pretty much the worst article ever written.

  • Chombe

    Both Norway and Denmark have LARGER per-capita nominal GDPs than the US, Norway a LARGER PPP GDP than the US as well, even though the US has far greater advantages in terms of natural resources. Since each of these countries years ago had smaller per-capita GDPs, by the definition of average slope in calculus, each of these countries therefore have had HIGHER long-term average GDP growth rates. So much for the economic failure of socialism.

  • Warriorstud

    Norway, Denmark,, Finland and Sweden all have private pensions making up most of the pension income.

    70% of their GDP comes from private sectors.

    They are in no way socialist. They are good models of capitalism.

  • Cass

    Oil income, yes…and agreed worst article ever written. Also, I would like to know the make up of the population of Norway. How many immigrants each year? How many illegal immigrants? What’s the overall population count? Probably equal to ONE US state. It’s an apples to oranges comparison. Is Norway really socialists or more like Sweden which is capitalist and the income from high taxes don’t get redistributed but they mostly go directly back to the people that paid them, in the form of social services. There is an inherent problem in redistributing wealth…it is not sustainable. Read the story of the little red hen.

  • Cass

    Yep, they’re population is around 5 million, about the size of a small US state. And they’re annual population growth is very slow with an overall very low foreigner component. I wonder how Norway was faring on the economic scale before the 1970s (when they started with the oil) and I wonder how they’ll compare when the oil and natural gas resources are depleted.

  • Cass

    Yep, their population is around 5 million, about the size of a small US state. And the annual population growth is very slow with an overall very low foreigner component. I wonder how Norway was faring on the economic scale before the 1970s (when they started with the oil) and I wonder how they’ll compare when the oil and natural gas resources are depleted. Either way, it’s relatively easy to deal with a slow-growing homogeneous population of 5 million compared to the US which has >310 million people and countless legal and illegal immigrants beating down the door every day. I would love to see the Scandinavian countries deal with that.

  • Sputnick

    Norway…the population nearly that of Wisconsin with vast undersea oil riches coupled with a sovereign, state-owned Central Bank (U.S. doesnt have this…Federal Reserve has foreign ownership and charges interest that we see as taxes, interest, fees) is why is works. When the oil dries up they’re done unless they find substitute revenue(s).

  • Sputnick

    The US is not made to be a socialist country. We suck at it but it hasn’t stopped the progressives from implementing the Federal Reserve**, social security, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and Medicare all of which are broke and creating our soon to be crippling debt.

    **Cant fully blame the progressives on this one but Woodrow Wilson was a huge progressive (and racist mind you) and he was the one who signed it into law without it properly being ratified

  • Peter Brandt-Sorheim

    Yes, just, yes! Would that we had managed our natural resources more wisely, and for the public good. Bunch of regressives!

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  • http://www.theimpudentobserver.com Fred Stopsky

    Karl Marx made predictions that capitalists were inherently greedy and would crush the middle class. His predictions have come true. He lived BEFORE the rise of Soviet communism so he can not be blamed for its cruelty. Separate the philosopher from what his followers did. After all, is Jesus Christ responsible for what Christians have done?

  • Anonymous

    I believe this article is perfectly honest, capitalism according to Marxist theory can no longer sustain the living standards of the population due to its need to compensate for falling rate of profit by driving down wages, cutting social benefits and pursuing military agression. For that reason USA will always find agressive ways to recuperate. Capitalism will fall, is just a matter of time. Socialism in USA would work perfectly if it is implemented in a correct way, look how the american economy is collapsing while socialist states maintain a stable growth. Even to see that a capitalist power is now depending from a powerful socialistic chinese democracy, and debts going up every second. USA capitalism will collapse, and not only there, europe too, even now with the euro about to be abolish. Norway may have only 5,000,000 people, like a small state, but even if the population is as far as 300 million, socialism will always prevail and work, if USA would have implemented the use of a democratic socialism system such as the one they use in Norway, they wouldn’t by living through what they are living now.. Tell me, do you really think USA wouldn’t be were it is right now wether it had petrol or not? Socialism is not perfect, every political ideology has its ups and downs, even Norway supports privatization, but trust me, that will be abolish soon enough. The future for a perfect state will be a more perfectionized democratic socialistic system and im looking forward to it. Marx was right about capitalism, it will fall. What many people do not know is that socialism has as main goal after abolishing privatization, that no man can profit from another man´s work, and no poverty, what more can someone ask for, when you know that your government really works with you to take your country to a better future. Before criticizing socialism or any other political ideology, read and inform, to really see what future you are missing.